Reading Andrew’s take down of the inimitable Michael Goldfarb today (apparently Fridays are Michael Goldfarb Day for me), I was struck with an insight about why I find myself so much more drawn to closely analyzing the goings on of American conservatism than American liberalism.
Andrew writes,
When you are a propagandist, these caveats – and the whole idea of thinking out loud in order to understand a foreign culture better – are anathema. And that’s why you end up shutling between “journalism” and being a spokesman for party campaigns.
There is a complete and utter lack of fear present in Andrew’s analysis about calling out the hypocrisies that he perceives as active within a movement and a party in which he was once fairly heavily invested. I believe completely that such such ruthlessness, so long as it is carried out with an spirit of constructivism, is badly needed in America’s current political discourse.
Of course, Andrew isn’t the only one engaging this mission by any stretch of the imagination, and while he remains one of my favourite bloggers and thinkers, he isn’t even necessarily the most effective at it, either. What Andrew and other dissident conservatives are, though — at least to my mind — are honest brokers in the process who stand to unleash a certain kind of fire power on a sinking ship that by many accounts refuses to acknowledge the rising water line of its situation (that ship, I should add, is as much the conservative movement as it is the GOP, if not more so).
In our discussion on American liberalism yesterday, Freddie noted that part of the recent history of liberals is a certain kowtowing to the success of conservative ideas and ideals since the Reagan resurgence, present and influential even throughout the much rose-coloured Clinton years. If I’m reading him correctly, I think Freddie is saying that liberals are basically afraid to really wrestle their conservative counterparts and that this is part of their current weakness.
I would agree with that assessment, but I would add that I don’t think that liberals are, frankly, in a very good position to do this right now. Personally, if I see Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Schumer, or any of the other various Democratic spokespeople start in about the failings of American conservatism, invariably my eyes glaze over with that ubiquitous sheen of partisan disinterest. I just don’t take American liberals to be at all honest brokers in this discussion because there is so much more than principle at play when it comes to winning hearts and minds in that discussion.
And yet, it seems to a fairly roundly agreed upon assessment that something has gone terribly awry with the GOP and the larger conservative movement over the past decade or thereabouts. So there is a desperate need for a viciously honest discussion about what the nature of that wrong turn entails, how it happened, how things have changed as a result, and what is to be done about all of it. If I have a hard time seeing liberals as the appropriate interlocutors for such a dialogue, then it only stands to reason that my eyes are going to turn to dissident conservatives who are willing to argue vociferously on principle about the state of their movement (for it remains their movement, too) and what the necessary tonic for its future might be.
Of course, those who are being criticized are inevitably going to see those barbs as the wielding of culturally persuasive, yet ideologically disingenuous flip-flopping, that is the nature of being criticized on things like first principles. And nor am I suggesting that conservatives who see nothing wrong with the movement as it currently stands should meekly sit on their hands and nod their heads, this is a serious discussion and those involved ought to be willing to speak their minds freely and forcefully.
But, at the end of the day, I increasingly see this whole trage-comedy playing out against a cyclical background of wax and wane. So as much as liberals, who have amassed a not insubstantial amount of power, need a critical eye placed on their movements, I can’t help but be utterly transfixed with the battle over the heart and soul of conservatism. My obsession is born of the belief that if dissident conservatives can find a way of massaging the core changes they see as necessary (and there is still a pretty solid debate about what properly constitutes those changes because this group of dissidents is hardly a homogeneous mush), that the reborn conservatism to which they give rise, will be the only antidote to topple the liberal juggernaut that America has currently enthroned.
At that point, my eyes will turn, with equal fascination, towards what I suspect will be the same process for liberals some years (decades?) down the road. Being as that I find the idea of people moving beyond party affiliation towards abandoning even ideological affiliation in the way that I remain committed to be a pretty far off and unstable possibility, this dialectic evolutionary take on the political process strikes me as the best way of analyzing and understanding our predicament and discourse for the foreseeable future.
The focus, when everything else drops, is not really one side winning out over the other, but the maintained momentum of the process itself.
Borat: “I do a picture, only small, of the Tishnik Masacre. Where many Uzbeks…crushed!”
Kindly Gray Hippie: “How did you feel when you drew this?”
Borat: “Very proud!”.
KGH: “I’m just listening with sadness…a little sadness for your people…?”
Borat: “Yes…no, it is not sad. It is us who do the kill!”
When in doubt,
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“I can’t help but be utterly transfixed with the battle over the heart and soul of conservtism.”
The various forms of conservatism are what they are, the battle is for control of the GOP.
“Being as that I find the idea of people moving beyond even party affiliation towards abadoning even ideological affiliation in the way that I remain committed to be a pretty far off and unstable possibility, this dialectic evolutinary take on the political process strikes me as the best way of analyzing and understanding our predicament and discourse for the foreseeable future.”
The battle is established in the tension defined by liberty and statism. I’m opting for liberty.
Bob- Classic good vs. evil, my side is objectively right and your side is objectively wrong thinking. Classic modern conservative.
Scott- Interesting post. There is often a lot of discussion regarding conservatives about the different factions/camps/types of conservative, ie: neo-con, social/religious con, etc. But seemingly less of discussion regarding democrats factions. It is the liberal wing of the dem’s that is most infuriated by the business friendly and wimpy actions of the dem politicians. Most of the big D poli’s are much more of the centrist or big business/DLC wing of the party. And it is the liberal wing who is most ready to wrestle the R’s on policy and values.
“Personally, if I see Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Schumer, or any of the other various Democratic spokespeople start in about the failings of American conservatism, invariably my eyes glaze over with that ubiquitous sheen of partisan disinterest. I just don’t take American liberals to be at all honest brokers in this discussion because there is so much more than principle at play when it comes to winning hearts and minds in that discussion.”
Frankly Scott, that doesn’t make a lot of sense, or more diplomatically, it’s beside the point. Does any one propose that Democrats/liberals are “honest brokers” in finding cures for what is ailing Republicans/conservatives? That said, Pelosi, and the others, clearly have the duty to critique the opposition without offering nostrums to revive the patient. Any suggestion I might offer to help Republicans regain trust of the voter would obviously be suspect. I don’t wish them well, if it were within my power I’d prefer a “permanent Democratic majority.” But neither Karl or I will be granted our wish.
Your larger point, regarding how interesting this rebirth of GOP/conservatism is, is absolutely correct. Since the first glimmerings of GOP failures I have been very interested in what would become of movement conservatives. I have long felt that a GOP comeuppance was overdue, I never expected that they would be reduced to the state we find them in early June 2009. But I think they have worked hard to get where they are. Congratulations.
It’s been interesting, it will continue to be interesting.
Bob, I take your point.
What I was trying to convey was less about finding cures for what ails conservatism and more about diagnosing the failings of conservatism.
When I’m talking about dissident conservatives engaging in that process, the first step, at least in my mind, is a ruthless diagnosis — along the lines of what Sullivan did to Goldfarb in the link a I provided — before moving on to discussing cures. One has to know what one is curing and be real about the magnitude of the infliction if one is to ever really hit upon an effective cure.
So all I’m really saying is that it excites me to see dissidents like Sullivan stepping up to the plate in a such a forceful and fearless manner and acknowledging, as you point out, that there isn’t a lot of useful room for liberals at that table, despite their willingness to seek invitations.
Scott, I do appreciate your point but I’m having difficulty in seeing the differentiation between party (GOP) and philosophy (conservatism); please note the word philosophy because if conservatism is an ideology we conservatives would be just as derailed as our liberal brothers.
In my understanding, the failure was political in terms of the machinations of the GOP which was captured by rinos, neocons, and statist Republican apparatchiks who disempowered the “conservatives.” Are you critical of that story and if so, how? I see the GOP, in the condition its in, as being very similar to the Democrats sans the war, which may be a false front because, historically Democrats really love a good war. And, BTW, are you following any of the conversation at the FPR? Gnosticism plays a rather fundamental part in the ongoing discussion.
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You never disappoint.
First, the eye glazing comment is a really, really accurate articulation of what I think is an increasingly typical response to the dominance of partisanship in political discussion.
Anyway, I think part of the honest broker problem is that the majority rightly or wrongly perceives popular support to be behind their programmatic agenda. So, superficial suggestions all reduce down to “be more like us, because we’re winning.” Which should be more facially useless than it actually is.
I disagree with Bob’s point about the inherent shadiness of constructive advice from the opposition. I think you could give it, recognize it, and take it from one of two positions. Position 1: Two strong, viable parties is better for the American people than one party rule. Position 2: A strong opposition, though it may beat me, will make me stronger.
It’s the latter that I approve of, because I think there’s enough variation within the parties that one-party rule doesn’t exactly mean what it used to. However, I recognize the value of facing strong opponents in making me stronger.
To make a crude analogy, Michael Phelps could race Alain Bernard or me and though he could probably beat both of us, he’s likely to gain more by racing Alain Bernard.
Which is why I think that if there is going to be constructive criticism of the GOP and conservatism made by people outside of that political-ideological tradition, it’s far, far more likely to occur in conversations, blogs, and bipartisan work in statehouses and municipalities, than in the halls of Congress or the op-ed pages of the Times, Post, Tribune and their publication families.
Kyle, I’ll readily admit I have a jaundiced view of politics. I don’t have any idea whence it came. Perhaps there is a gene for jaundice. That would get me off the hook.
I have to confess my eyes glaze when it’s Pelosi or Reid because I just can’t take them seriously bc I think they are not particularly bright (to put it very nicely). Plus as Freddie says they’re wussies. I feel for anyone whose a Democrat out there, I really do. Boy oh boy could you guys use some real leadership in the Congress.
Since we’re on a partisan and lest I again be accused of being a some fan of the GOP, when my fellow Buckeye Boehner is on I just want to smash my computer so I get his face out of my view.
Chris, you set me straight on that GOP thing, if I do it again I’m drunk.
Leadership in congress – weak weak weak. Boehner – creepy.
I’m really starting to like Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island.
Chris,
As a fellow buckeye, what’s your opinion of former Con. Kascish (sp) and his bid for governor?
Dan Balz, Washington Post 6/14/09
“For the past few months, political analysts and demographers have been poring over the results of the 2008 election and comparing them with presidential results from the last two decades. From whatever angle of their approach — age, race, economic status, geography — they have come to a remarkably similar conclusion. Almost all indicators are pressing the Republicans into minority status.”
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