Putting Aside Childish Things

by Scott H. Payne on September 15, 2009

Last week, Andrew Sullivan and Ta Nehisi Coates both expressed admiration and appreciation for Obama’s coolness under fire throughout the health care debate, particularly in the month of August.

Ta Nehisi started off by saying,

I don’t want to be led by people who think that “getting angry” is a actual political strategy. I want to be led by a killer. A cold, unemotional, professional killer.

I keep meeting lefties who tell me Obama’s “too soft” with these guys, and I keep looking at them like they’re crazy. I am going to go out on a limb and say that there is something deeper at work here, something beyond the policy fights. I think a lot of us don’t just want Obama to be effective, we want him to exact some measure of revenge. It’s smart to understand the difference between the two, and moreover, how the desire for one can undermine the other.

Then Andrew followed up, noting,

I repeat my belief in the core attraction of Obama’s candidacy and presidency: that he is not engaging in Rove-Morris daily politicking, or descending into the cable news muck. The whole point of the Obama candidacy, in my view, was to help us get past that to a substantive discussion of practical policy decisions which America simply has to face.

And, you know, I get where both are coming from. Certainly part of the promise of Obama’s presidency was to get away from the vicious partisanship of Rovian politics as Andrew points out. But I can’t help wondering whether Obama isn’t overplaying this card a bit to the point that it is hurting him on multiple fronts.

I mean, there is a difference between rising above the fray and refusing to participate in mudslinging and remaining so aloof as to not really appear to be engaged at all to a relatively broad cross-section of the polity (read: not just anxious liberals), which is, frankly, a lesson I’ve learned somewhat recently.

One of the more interesting comments that kept coming up for me around Ted Kennedy’s death was how he was known to duke it out with political opponents in one moment and then be hugging and joshing around with them the next. The lesson here is both one of political ability and Buberian I-and-Thou-ness: Kennedy disagreed with his opponents (sometimes his allies, too), sometimes vehemently, but he also respected and appreciated them, which made his political skirmishes things of honour, not cowardly braying.

Which should not be read as me suggesting that Obama needs to be more like Kenney, per se. Kennedy was a hyper-partisan figure, a Liberal’s liberal, and that just isn’t who Obama is. But there does seem to be a tendency on Obama’s part to act and come across so aloof and so above it all that, despite his best intentions, he doesn’t really seem to view the process as something important, or something in which he is obligated to be involved.

One can be engaged in the political process without stumbling into the pitfalls of its lowest common denominators and that, more than anything, is what the discourse of American politics needs from its participants right now. The quagmire of the health care debate and Obama’s hands-ff approach, his relatively late entry into its fray, and his continued perception of distance from helping to shape setting the parameters is, in many senses, a good example of this strength turned weakness against which Obama and the White House now have to swim upstream.

It also occurs to me that this tendency sort of unintentionally plays into the “fascist”, “socialist”, “communist” monikers that are intensifying in Obama’s direction.

Certainly one doesn’t want to say that this sloganeering is particularly accurate or deserving in terms of Obama’s actions to date. But one can perhaps see how Obama’s approach takes on a feeling of from-up-on-highness that mimics the monolithic historical figures and political apparatus being used in parallel, which certainly wouldn’t aid Obama’s cause in knocking down those arrows.

Democracy is a dirty game, players that come off the field unscathed are generally regarded with a degree of suspicion.

Now, admittedly, it might all seem childish and ridiculous, but this is the political process that Obama has inherited — it is the process of which he ran to be at the pinnacle. And so in many senses, it is Obama’s obligation to demonstrate the means and provide the example of setting aside “childish things”, which, one senses, does not involve ignoring the existence of those childish things altogether.

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{ 21 comments }

1 Ryan September 15, 2009 at 12:49 pm

I think there’s also a Prisoner’s Dilemma-style thing going on as well. Because Republicans are willing to do and say (literally, I think) anything, Obama is at a distinct disadvantage. You simply can’t have high-minded discourse with people who think you’re going to use the apparatus of the state to slaughter old people. So, by refusing to play the game that way, Obama actually makes his position worse – even though everyone would benefit if the Republicans would stop acting like children.

2 Scott H. Payne September 15, 2009 at 1:28 pm

It’s a sticky situation, to be sure. And to be clear, I don’t envy the man. But I just don’t think a policy of non-engagement works here. As I’ve been on about lately, one must engage fully and in good faith, even when one’s interlocutors refuse to do the same. There need to be the understanding that by doing so, one is bound to make mistakes and must be on the lookout for the lessons that fall out of those mistakes so that one becomes all the more capable at this thing we call politics. It’s messy and ugly and won’t cease being so in the near term, if ever (I’m beginning to wonder).

3 North September 15, 2009 at 12:51 pm

Well I for one would feel a bit better if Obama got his hands dirty and did some political lifting, and soon. But then again I was a Clinton supporter in the primaries.

4 Lev September 15, 2009 at 1:35 pm

I’m not exactly sure what Obama’s supposed to do that he’s not doing. Attack Republicans? He could do that, but as we’ve seen, attacking death panels and the like tend to only make the lies more common, and the media will just do more he said/she said stories that misinform the public, as though the death panels are a subject of good-faith debate and not just a pack of cynical lies.

I do think that the disadvantage that the Democrats have in general is that they lack a slick media machine like the Republicans do, and the party simply doesn’t do a good job of identifying good spokespeople and getting them out there. (In other words, why aren’t Barney Frank and Al Franken going on TV nightly, rather than the likes of Kent Conrad and Kathleen Sebelius?) I have some hope for this, as the Democratic leader happens to be incredibly media savvy, unlike, say, Harry Reid. But there’s only so much one can do with the combination of a desperate Republican Party that will say literally anything, even if they know that it is false, to try to gain momentary advantage with a media that seems to be deathly afraid of bullying from the right and won’t call them on even the obvious lies. In the long term, of course, “objective, balanced” news will not survive, because it was the artifact of a specific time in American history when there was broad political consensus. But I’m not so sure that Obama’s high-minded attitude is what’s driving the right crazy–to me, it seems a natural consequence of their identity politics coping with their loss of power and influence. Oh, and the fact that the people “leading” their party have absolutely no stake in its success–unless the Republican Party dwindles below 20 million Rush will still have a huge audience, and hardly anybody listened or gave a shit when Rush opposed the Medicare Prescription Drug Bill for many of the right reasons.

5 Scott H. Payne September 15, 2009 at 1:39 pm

But I’m not so sure that Obama’s high-minded attitude is what’s driving the right crazy–to me, it seems a natural consequence of their identity politics coping with their loss of power and influence.

Definitely agree here. Obama’s approach isn’t driving the crazy, but my offering is that it isn’t helping, either.

6 EngineerScotty September 15, 2009 at 2:32 pm

There is, as TNC noted, many on the left who ARE being driven crazy–who want Obama to run roughshod over the Republicans on his charger, mowing down GOP footsoldiers with his (rhetorical) broadsword, much as the Bush Administration did to them eight years ago.
There are many on the left who want to see prominent political and media figures engaging in scurrilous attacks on conservatives during prime-time, to see Republicans “called out” as the ignorant rednecks many on the left think they are.
Obama, so far, wants no part in any of that. And while it might be theraputic for the left to get revenge on the GOP, long term–it probably isn’t beneficial. And while Obama’s perceived lack of aggressiveness hasn’t won him any influence on the right–the key word is “yet”.
What will happen three years hence, when the economy is (hopefully) better, and none of the doomsday scenarios articulated by the Glenn Becks of the world have come to pass? At some point, sanity will return to the GOP polity–one hopes–and many of the anti-Obama screeds will be regarded as nuttiness. I’m probably being too optimistic–the GOP never warmed up to Clinton, though Slick Willie has his own pecker to blame for much of that–but already it seems the “Obama is a Muslim” and “Obama is a furriner” memes seem to be dying down a bit, as they’ve been rather thoroughly discredited.

7 Scott H. Payne September 15, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Sure, but that’s not what I’m suggesting. Bringing a different degree of engagement to the table does not necessarily mean running roughshod over people or mowing them down with a rhetorical broadsword. As I said in the post, “[o]ne can be engaged in the political process without stumbling into the pitfalls of its lowest common denominators”, which is what I hear you describing.

8 EngineerScotty September 15, 2009 at 3:28 pm

I didn’t think you were suggesting that–but Obama has disappointed numerous of his supporters by NOT trying to crush the GOP with the full weight of his office.
How much this hurts him, I don’t know–it probably doesn’t help him any in the short term, as he’s not getting any good marks from the right for playing nice.
The biggest issue, I think, is his ability to control his own caucus; there is far less discipline among Obama’s party than among the GOP, who DID run roughshod over the Democrats, employing (or threatening to) parliamentary procedures that make reconciliation look like a picnic. (Remember the “nuclear option”?)
In the long term, it may help him… but it may not.

9 E.D. Kain September 15, 2009 at 1:35 pm

What the Democrats need to do is focus on unity. The reason Obama seems so feckless is largely because he’s left the ball in the hands of guys like Baucus and nobody knows who the boss is anymore. He needs to rein in his party and become the boss-man. He needs to own the reform, and then let his people doing the heavy lifting. Otherwise you have this Democratic majority with no obvious leadership, scattered all across the map, with a pretty well-organized, very loud opposition. Time to lead.

10 Scott H. Payne September 15, 2009 at 1:57 pm

I mean, yeah, I’m not all about the cult of the presidency, myself. But like it or not, all eyes continue to be on Obama, he needs to set the stage and he remains, I think, objectively speaking the best person to do so, capability-wise.

11 Lev September 15, 2009 at 3:07 pm

I agree with all that. I still think Obama is fine-tuning his style–my guess is that future debates will proceed a lot less schizophrenically, as Obama has shown an ability to learn and make adjustments. His speech last week was light years beyond what he was doing in 2007 in terms of comprehensibly explaining policy minutiae, for example.

12 Scott H. Payne September 15, 2009 at 3:56 pm

That’s a great point, Lev. The speech to Congress demonstrated an improvement in policy articulation since even the election. Definitely something to keep one’s eye on.

It remains important to remember that Obama has been in office just shy of eight months and his presidency is likely to span eight years. Lots of time for learning and dynamic course correction. Contra a lot of the talk in the election, I think it is preferable and heartening to see a president engage in on the job training and learning, demonstrates a connection and sensitivity to the realities as they unfold in front of you.

13 Bob September 15, 2009 at 2:10 pm
14 Scott H. Payne September 15, 2009 at 2:13 pm

Frank and I must have been sharing the brain on Sunday, that’s when I sketched this post out, as well. Heh, you know what they say about great minds and whatnot.

15 Bob September 15, 2009 at 2:36 pm

Mr. Rich sketched out his column prior to Sunday – no doubt.

But my comment was not to diminish your post. It was meant to re-enforce it.

16 Scott H. Payne September 15, 2009 at 2:38 pm

That’s how yr comment was rec’d. I was just joshing around all Kennedy like.

17 Kyle September 15, 2009 at 6:15 pm

Interesting. It seems that the benefit (and trade off the President would make should he be more involved) the President gets from staying above the fray is that – rhetorically – he gets to cast himself and practically anything he says as eminently reasonable and rarely, if at all, ideological. Which you’ll notice he does consistently to great effect.

Republicans are cast as do-nothing, obstructionists lead by Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, even when Republicans have counter-proposals, amendments, and/or specifically refute assertions made by conservative pundits.

This is also why the left is convinced he’s given away all the candy in the store on health care reform, when all he’s done is announced a willingness to entertain options beyond the public option. Not because these widely felt impressions reflect reality but for a wide swatch of the American public, the President seems like a reasonable guy and casts an aura of reasonableness over much of what he says. So when he doesn’t say the public option is essential, it makes the die-hard option(ers) look and feel left out in the cold lunatic fringe.

The more political he gets, I think the more he has to fear that aura will shrink. Conservatives who didn’t vote for him and won’t vote for him already see him as a political being (hence the socialist indoctrinating school speech) but the independents he needs are more malleable and the more he sounds and acts like a head of government than a head of state, the greater the risk he’ll alienate them.

IMHO, where that strategy falls apart is when the Democratic caucus falls apart and needs a head of government to wrangle them back into line. Which is why I think the White House is desperately hoping for some traction on health care before Congress starts talking about what to do with/in Afghanistan.

18 Jaybird September 15, 2009 at 6:39 pm

The problem is that there is no real measurement of skill absent of outcome in the political arena.

If he passes a good-enough bill? He will be a Jedi Master capable of tackling the worst Sith Lords the Republicans can throw at him… Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity. Thrown down a well like so many emperors. How foolish we were to not understand exactly how *GOOD* he was!

If a not-even-good-enough bill passes or if one doesn’t pass at all, he’ll be a kid who never fought a real fight against the right wing before and had no idea what a tough prolonged political battle looked like and we ought to have known. Lord, we ought to have nominated Hillary.

But we have no way to measure which one of those is going on and won’t until the bill passes (or doesn’t).

Our (screwed up, to be sure) political process has turned him into Schroedinger’s President. He is both bad *AND* good until the waveform collapses.

19 Kyle September 15, 2009 at 6:52 pm

Schroedinger’s President. Umm. Win.

20 North September 18, 2009 at 7:54 am

Pure win.

21 E.D. Kain September 18, 2009 at 7:56 am

God, that would make an excellent article title, actually. Actually a good premise for the article, too.

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