Open Thread (Feb. 28th 2012) Ron Swanson is the man edition

by Erik Kain on February 28, 2012

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{ 95 comments }

1 BSK February 28, 2012 at 1:55 pm

That quote immediately became my new Facebook status. Great moment. He also nailed the line, “That sounds just like me.” In that particular episode, though, I thought Tom was on his game with the “Oh No No’s” and his visceral reaction to Anne’s violation of them.

2 Max February 28, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Deep thought for the day: contemporary culture encourages and rewards half-assery in most aspects of ‘professional’ life. Blogging is not only not a remedy to this phenomenon but may in fact be the vanguard of it.

3 Dan Miller February 28, 2012 at 1:59 pm

I’ll merely note that I posted this reply at work.

4 BSK February 28, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Isn’t a blog just a half-assed website?

5 Dan Miller February 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm

Isn’t a website just a half-assed book?

6 BSK February 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Isn’t a book just a half-assed painting?

7 Chris February 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Isn’t a painting just a half-assed photograph?

8 BSK February 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm

Isn’t a painting just a half-assed porno?

9 Chris February 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm

I would say isn’t porno just half-assed sex, but I think that’s sort of the point of it.

10 BSK February 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm

You’re clearly not married…

11 Chris February 28, 2012 at 2:21 pm

Well, marriage is just half-assed celibacy.

12 BSK February 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm

And celibacy is just half-assed life.

13 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Do not stand too close when you light an ex-wife effigy.

14 James Hanley February 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Even after 20 years of marriage I still don’t understand such comments.

Poor saps.

15 Chris February 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm

James, I’m being facetious. Having never been married, I can’t speak from experience anyway.

16 James Hanley February 28, 2012 at 2:38 pm

That’s all right, Chris, it gives me the opportunity to brag.

17 BSK February 28, 2012 at 3:04 pm

If we didn’t bemoan our married lifes, our wives would know we like it. That would make it much harder to negotiate and bargain.

18 James Hanley February 28, 2012 at 3:08 pm

If you can actually fake a lack of enthusiasm about it, your wife has my sympathy. ;)

19 BSK February 28, 2012 at 3:24 pm

It is not faking as much as an intense ability to compartmentalize, which itself is probably a result of working in preschools while going to college and living the typical red blooded American male college lifestyle. If you can compartmentalize that, you can compartmentalize everything.

See, what I do is I think any tiny thing I do miss about single life, even if temporarily so, and I focus in on that, allowing me to generate real emotion around the topic.

Also, we are only on month 6 of marriage, month 4 of home ownership and halfway through year 4 of cohabitation (SINNERS!), so there is still a great deal of settling in still occuring.

20 BSK February 28, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Also, marriage jokes are fun…

21 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 3:31 pm

Years ago, I took tango lessons. Yeah, yeah, laugh if you want. I met an older couple from Spain at that tango bar, the most respectful, loving couple I believe it’s ever been my pleasure to know, superb dancers. They sorta took me into their company.

The secret to romance, they assured me, was to keep a small amount of mystery alive, never to assume they fully understood each other. Cortejo, they called this, courtship.

22 BSK February 28, 2012 at 3:34 pm

I propose a new game… first one to come up with a situation where Blaise does NOT have some amazingly profound, almost unbelievable experience that connects with it gets a point. First to one point wins.

You never cease to amaze, Blaise. You have lived a full life. May you continue to.

23 Patrick Cahalan February 28, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Tango lessons are hardly amazingly profound.

Er, rather, they may *be* amazingly profound, but it’s not like you can’t sign up for tango lessons in just about any major metropolitan area in America for a doable amount of cash and learn the basics.

It’s not like he took lessons in this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4U6T_BB1N8

24 BSK February 28, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Yea, any of us can take tango lessons. But not all of us would make friends with an elderly couple from spain who taught us the secret of love.

25 Patrick Cahalan February 28, 2012 at 3:52 pm

The couple that taught me the secret of love were a couple of Americans of Finnish/Italian and German/Irish descent (plus some hodge-podge).

26 BSK February 28, 2012 at 4:10 pm

Mom and dad?

27 Patrick Cahalan February 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Nope, me and the wife :)

28 BSK February 28, 2012 at 5:09 pm

Congrats, good sir! May we each be so lucky.

29 Kyle Cupp February 28, 2012 at 9:40 pm

You’re all half-assed versions of me. Just sayin’.

30 Dan Miller February 28, 2012 at 2:11 pm

This kind of reminds me of how all Wikipedia links lead to philosophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Getting_to_Philosophy

31 BSK February 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm

That’s fun! A fun game is to have someone give you two random words or things and you have to connect them through wikipedia in as few clicks as possible. As if there weren’t enough ways to waste time on the interweb…

32 Kolohe February 28, 2012 at 1:58 pm

Your new widget on the side blocks a bit of the gift of gab sidebar in IE7. (part of that statement would seem to be my fault, yet it is not).

33 Kolohe February 28, 2012 at 1:59 pm

Nevermind, I am now able to minimize it.

34 BSK February 28, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Can you make it stay away? Mine pops back up after each reload.

35 Mary February 28, 2012 at 3:43 pm

No, which is why it continues to drive me nuts.

36 Erik Kain February 28, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Clear your browser’s cache. It should be minimized by default now.

37 Mary February 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm

I can minimize it, but it still drives me nuts.

38 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Vote for Swanson!

I’m the Bobby Knight of government efficiency.

Forget for a second the oxymoron that is “government efficiency.” As a devoted fan of The General, I’ve taken many of his life lessons and applied them in my current position as Director of the Pawnee City Department of Parks and Recreation. My track record speaks for itself. In the last six years in this job, I’ve successfully helped close down Portola Skate Park, the Grice Dog Run, the Morris-Easton Observatory, the Mohanga Native American Heritage Center and most public drinking fountains. That’s the same sort of can-do attitude I intend to bring to the State House.

39 BSK February 28, 2012 at 2:11 pm

I meant ALL the bacon.

40 Chris February 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm

I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.

41 Johanna February 29, 2012 at 9:30 am

He is just resting.

42 Dan Miller February 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Has anyone else lost the rich text formatting options that used to be here?

43 Snarky McSnarksnark February 28, 2012 at 2:29 pm

This is an experiment:

Can I do bold, italic, underlined or

block quoting

?

44 Mary February 28, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Yes, Dan, I did. Grrr… more nuts.

45 Snarky McSnarksnark February 28, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Well, there’s the answer. You can have rich formatting without the Javascript editor, but you’ve got to do the HTML tags yourself.

46 Michael Cain February 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Why does the top level page now load, then take me away to seemingly arbitrary locations where the browser hangs. It has hung trying to pull things from linkedin.com, google.com, and currently ordinary-gentlemen.com. Firefox 3.6.27, Mac OS 10.7.3. Restarting Firefox did not help. Safari on the same machine seems to be okay.

47 Michael Cain February 28, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Okay, this problem seems to be fixed now. Note that clearing the cache hadn’t helped. FWIW, the URLs that were causing the browser to hang started with the string “wyciwyg://”, which is not a valid transfer protocol so far as I know. Too many possibilities about what it was causing software to do to speculate in any meaningful way.

48 Michael Cain February 28, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Duh, check with Google first. “wyciwyg://” is an internal Firefox thing having to do with caching.

49 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 4:12 pm

Uh, wyciwyg is a sorta protocol, heh heh. It’s the Gecko renderer crapping on itself. It used to be a big hole in Gecko.

50 North February 28, 2012 at 2:57 pm

I miss the formatting options in the comment box and I loathe the little Share widget in the bottom left corner with a cold burning hatred.

51 Stillwater February 28, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Yeah, me too. The League site wouldn’t even upload earlier, getting stuck on various newfangled thingies. I’ve spent quite a bit of time firing them off the page with adblocker.

52 BSK February 28, 2012 at 3:07 pm

The page title keeps showing up as “#comment-stringofnumbers”.

53 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 3:13 pm

I’ve lost the JavaScript rich text editor, too

[blaisep@fedora ~]$ firefox –version
Mozilla Firefox 10.0.1

[blaisep@fedora ~]$ uname -a
Linux fedora.localdomain 3.2.1-3.fc16.x86_64

54 Will H. February 28, 2012 at 2:57 pm

The theme of this open thread appears to be appearances.

55 Snarky McSnarksnark February 28, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Watch out. They can be deceptive.

56 DensityDuck February 28, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Which is better, a whole ass or an asshole?

PS “You guys have got it wrong! If you don’t like your job, don’t strike! Just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That’s the American way!”

57 Dan Miller February 28, 2012 at 3:11 pm
58 BSK February 28, 2012 at 3:26 pm

BPS teachers did this not along ago when they entered their X consecutive year without a contract.

59 Erik Kain February 28, 2012 at 3:29 pm

Okay:

1. The rich-text editor was buggy and annoying. Too many mangled comments. Too many problems. I will try to find a better one. Until then, it’s pretty easy to do some html if you need to.

2. I’ve changed the share widget to auto-hide. Let me know if you’re still getting page load errors. I haven’t gotten any at all so far for whatever reason. Thoughts and feedback are very much appreciated, but I do want to make social-sharing easier. We have a crappy social network presence right now and I want to change that.

3. I have some other redesign thoughts and ideas percolating. Feedback is always good. But please be detailed and constructive.

60 BSK February 28, 2012 at 3:35 pm

Erik-

Share widget seems to be hiding and looks nice with the little hat logo.

61 Erik Kain February 28, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Cool. Well if anyone has issues with screen loading funny or whatever, please sound off here in the comments.

62 North February 28, 2012 at 3:39 pm

Thanks E.D. ‘preciate it being a little lower key.

63 Erik Kain February 28, 2012 at 3:44 pm

No more deep burning hatred? ;)

64 North February 28, 2012 at 4:19 pm

Well it still causes my browser to hang and delay loading, but I can tolerate that if it helps the site over all.

65 Stillwater February 28, 2012 at 3:44 pm

FWIW, My other machine still gets hung up on linkedin.com.

66 Erik Kain February 28, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Can you elaborate? Is this when you load this site or when you try to share to linkedin?

67 Stillwater February 28, 2012 at 3:49 pm

When I load the site. It’s still happening on the other machine. I’ve blocked all that stuff on this one, but as I recall, it was a series of links on the load that stalled: first linkedin, then reddit, then some others.

68 Stillwater February 28, 2012 at 3:51 pm

I just tried again and I think the site loads (it said ‘done’ on the bottom left), and then jumped back out to linkedin. DOn’t know if that’s helpful.

69 wardsmith February 28, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Whatever you did definitely broke my default smartphone browser (Dolphin on the Android OS). The site comes up and I get to see the headlines then it disappears leaving the Reddit widget in the upper left and nothing else. Interestingly on my computer running Firefox I don’t even see the Reddit widget.

70 wardsmith February 28, 2012 at 3:52 pm

Have just tested with my default browser on the Droid and get the identical result. Not sure what the default browser is called, my son who works at Google made me get Dolphin right away and I’ve never actually used the default one till now.

71 Erik Kain February 28, 2012 at 3:59 pm

I deactivated the reddit and linkedin buttons. Maybe this will help.

72 Wardsmith February 28, 2012 at 4:07 pm

That fixed it! Commenting from the phone :-)

73 Snarky McSnarksnark February 28, 2012 at 3:48 pm

I’m still having lots of issues:

1. Slow / hung loading. When the widget loads, it downloads images from reddit, twitter. If these are slow, the whole page hangs. I don’t know why the images don’t cache, but this happens on every page load.

2. I have an older version of Chrome, that was part of Google Pack (which is no longer offered). On that browser, I get a reddit icon only, and no other content.

3. On IE, loading and rendering is very slow.

74 Erik Kain February 28, 2012 at 3:51 pm

It could be that this is related to the cache, which I have cleared and which may need to cache those files still. It’s very quick on my machine with no load issues. What I may do – and I hope this isn’t too annoying – is see if some of these issues don’t just clear up by themselves while I tinker. If that doesn’t work we’ll try something else.

75 James Hanley February 28, 2012 at 4:00 pm

Well, thank god we’re not having another long discussion about commenting culture! ;)

76 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 4:08 pm

Yeah. Hang on a bit, folks. It will take a while to percolate through the bowels of the server before all the dust settles.

77 Robert Cheeks February 28, 2012 at 4:16 pm

The only thing that kept me from screaming like a little girl was the certain knowledge that E.D. and Bp were on the job! With that said, I’m absolutely sure the entire affair was the fault of demons who are known to consort with commie-Dems!

78 North February 28, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Lol don’t ever change Bob.

79 Robert Cheeks February 28, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Hello Northie, the missus sends her best wishes, as always!

80 North February 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm

My warmest and best to her and you Bob. I trust the season has treated you both kindly.

81 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 4:31 pm

I have nothing to do with this upgrade. I do, however, know more about the nature of the JavaScript beast than is strictly good for anyone. As with any vice or sordid kink, first it’s horrible, then fascinatingly horrible. Thereafter, it’s just fascinating.

82 Erik Kain February 28, 2012 at 4:37 pm

BlaiseP – if you know about the programming aspect here – can you illuminate if we’re on a good or bad track with this upgrade?

83 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 4:43 pm

I think things are just fine. The old JavaScript was causing problems, as you say. You seem to be current on WordPress and I presume your host is keeping your back end up to date. I’d be glad to provide any assistance you’d find needful.

84 Will H. February 28, 2012 at 4:55 pm

I’ll bet that those Dems have some sort of government program set up for those demons.
(whereas the R.’s simply wish to offer them a tax break)

85 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 5:01 pm

not a program so much as a crontab entry.

86 Will H. February 28, 2012 at 4:52 pm

Percolating bowels sounds like a horrible condition.
I think I had that once after siphoning gasoline and getting a big mouthful.

87 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 4:59 pm

I have the same sensation messing around in other people’s /var/log/ files.

88 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 4:05 pm

I don’t mind the raw comment form. Pasting is certainly easier.

If we do get something to replace the old JavaScript, keep it brutally simple. Dunno what’s in your version of wp-comments-post.php but I hope it won’t accept mangled HTML, unterminated tags, etc. MarkItUp is awfully nice

dcssb-slick aka the Share Hat is behaving gracefully now. Good work.

89 Dan Miller February 28, 2012 at 4:15 pm

New thread: those who engaged in the campaign finance conversation from last week (James, Elias) might be interested in this book review of Larry Lessig’s latest in the Washington Monthly. I definitely don’t endorse all of it, but it’s got a fresh approach to the issue, coming at it through the lens of limiting campaign spending by making it more effective without using the law. It’s worth reading.

90 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 4:27 pm

Anyone interested in a scholarly approach to the problem with a full backgrounder on the history of money in American politics ought to take a look at Golden Rule by Thomas Ferguson. It’s a bit old but it’s a good text on the subject.

91 BlaiseP February 28, 2012 at 4:50 pm

Dan: I have a theory on how we might eliminate the worst parts of campaign financing from gnawing away at what little remains of the democratic process.

We need to close the revolving door between Regulator and Regulated. I’m convinced many of the worst abuses of the tax code, and it always seems to be located in the tax code, subsidies particularly, are nothing more than grubstakes for politicians who hope to end up on the payrolls of those who benefit thereby.

92 Jeff February 28, 2012 at 7:25 pm

Of NBC’s Thursday night block, I watch The Office (purely for sentimental reasons). I never got into 30 Rock or P&R (largely due to Ron Swanson, and the fact the Amy Poehler is extremely unfunny). I didn’t even test Community, since I detest Chevy Chase (see Amy Poehler).

93 E.D.Kain February 28, 2012 at 7:35 pm

Oh man, P&R is the best and Swanson is comic gold. Also, Leslie Knope is one of the best characters on television. The Office has been better than it has in years also.

94 Jeff February 28, 2012 at 8:36 pm

OK, when it comes to TV (if naught else), you are the anti-me.

95 Plinko February 28, 2012 at 9:48 pm

I wish to complain that the volume of good posts this week is too high. I can’t even keep up with the posts much less the comments, please store some in a rainy-day fund.

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