Daniel

A little while ago both Erik and myself were giggling over this clip of Ben in Parks and Recreation passionately casting down the idea that HBO’s Game of Thrones would ever be canceled. Ben argues that it’s a hit because it tells real world stories in a fantasy setting. At the time, I said that that was a perfect explanation of why the show and series among non-traditionally fantasy inclined fans:

What I love about the clip is that the explanation is also one of the best and most succinct ones I’ve heard/seen of why the show/series is successful.*

Really? Do you know someone who’s fathered three children through his sister? Is your best friend a stunted dwarf desperate for love, drowning his sorrows in the bosoms of whores? Has your older brother been killed and his family’s home put to the torch because he decided to marry someone for love?

No. Ben’s explanation is incomplete. The reason the show is successful among non-fantasy lovers is because the characters think like normal people. This is not the clichéd epic where the protagonists talk in faux old English and are constantly worried about honor. These characters are appealing because we can understand how they think and we see that they aren’t always inclined to do the right thing. Sometimes they do the selfish, wrong, ugly, stupid, thing instead. It’s entirely human.

*I realize how absurd it is to quote oneself. I’m only doing it here because I’m criticizing my own comments.

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Does anybody else find the entire Iron Islands storyline tiresome and disconnected? I do. I just can’t find myself at all interested by Euron Crow’s Eye or Victarion or Asha. I also sort of get the sense that Martin knows these chapters are slow so every once in a while he’ll add a little sexual tension or comment on some woman’s body. But the sexual gratuity argument is not only exhausted but not my major gripe with the series. If I had to complain about one aspect of these books it would not be about how stupid Ned Stark is (really, it seems like the entire blogosphere agrees that Stark is stupid, just not in what way he’s stupid. Either way it’s not worth discussing.) My gripe is that there is no appealing mother character in the books. Correct me if I’m wrong here, but every character who’s a mother first (Cersei, Catelyn, Lysa) are all incompetent, insane, or some mixture of both. Their roles consistently involve messing things up and complicating things in an easily correctable manner. At one point Cersei thinks “Mothers are all the same.”

Now, the immediate counterargument is Daenerys. But she never was a mother for very long was she? She may be the “Mother of Dragons” but she’s really a queen first and a mother and keeper of her pet dragons second.

There’s also Gilly, I guess, but what does she do? From where I am in A Feast for Crows, she generally hugs Sam, carries a baby who’s not hers around, and cries a lot. There’s still time for her to muck things up though. Maybe when Sam and Gilly get to Oldtown she’ll burn down the Citadel. Who knows!

It occurs to me that an actual competent player of the game of thrones who is a mother is the Queen of Thorns. She’s actually fairly competent but, like Dany, I don’t really think of her as a mother first —more a matriarch of House Tyrell. She doesn’t seem particularly concerned for her son, for example, but rather the success of her house and their conquest of the Iron Throne. That’s not quite the top priority of a mother character. I consider Catelyn a maternal character because she’s always doing things based on the safety of her children which is hardly, as it appears from where I am, what the Queen of Thorns or, I suppose to a lesser degree, Dany does.

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League commenter Marianne is interested in Brienne of Tarth:

Well…. for one thing I think a woman knight idolizing Renly that way is an interesting take on the conventions of chivalry and courtly love. I don’t know much about those things outside of White (and Malory)… but it definitely seems to ring all the same changes, while being completely subversive in some way. *imagines Brienne jousting with a favor tied to her lance*

But really, I’m just curious to hear other people’s take on one of my favorite characters.

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I can’t stress enough how much I like blogging about A Song of Ice and Fire at the League. The one problem is I sometimes don’t have an idea of what I want to blog about so I’m asking you all for recommendations. Keep in mind that I’m at the Jon Snow chapter in A Storm of Swords that begins “The ground was littered with pine needles and blown leaves, a carpet of green and brown still damp from the recent rains” (reading this on the Kindle so no page numbers, sorry) so I can’t write about stuff beyond there.

What do you want to talk about? (Please, no more discussing the stupidity of Ned Stark).

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