State of the Discussion

The posts in play...

Morning Ed: United States {2016.03.28.T}
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Morning Ed: Education {2017.03.29.W}
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Pitchfork Republic
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Washington Post: The last thing on ‘privilege’ you’ll ever need to read
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The comments...

Marchmaine

Congrats... I'm guessing its in "the Powers that be" pile.

LeeEsq

It depends on the subject of the debate.

+ I thought then and still think now that public whippings would be less cruel than locking people in a room for X years. "But public whippings [. . .]
InMD
+ The biggest thing that needs to change and the hardest to swallow politically is reforming sentencing guidelines. They're no longer mandatory but most judges [. . .]
DavidTC
+ He is contemplating a series of state laws that, among other things, would impair the formation of a voluntary contract, impair the formation of a [. . .]
gregiank
+ All punishments are hard. We are an overly punitive society so less would be better all around. We can agree on that i assume. But [. . .]
DensityDuck
+ The contention is that "Median income, adjusted for inflation, hasn’t grown really at all since 1980" and my reply is that this statement actually has nothing [. . .]
Stillwater

Amazing. And thanks for clarifying.

{{I can't believe the Chris Signal worked.}}

Pinky
+ "...but it seems that no debate is ever settled in the United States" ?? That's not a uniquely American trait, nor is it a particularly [. . .]
Francis
+ My problem with DTC's argument is that it is utterly fanciful. He is contemplating a series of state laws that, among other things, would [. . .]
Stillwater
+ greg, The issue isn't whether public whippings are a good idea, but if it's a better idea than locking people up for years at a [. . .]
Chris
+ I think your professor was using, let's say creative license. The data suggests that people are much more likely, today, to say that it is [. . .]
gregiank
+ Well i'm not judging or anything but public whipping is a terrible idea...not that i'm judging or being critical. But i'm all for rehabilitation and [. . .]
Don Zeko
+ As is assuming that because we all have smartphones we no longer need to worry about how easy it is to afford housing or save [. . .]
Stillwater
+ Well, Jaybird and I agree on at least two issues. The first is that the Dem party is in some serious damn trouble nationally. The [. . .]
gregiank
+ We used to have public whippings and stuff like that. Wasn't all that good as it turned out. Of all the things to listen to [. . .]
Stillwater
+ I know you're kidding, but I've had some pretty interesting discussions with folks here at the OT, most prominently Jaybird, which have changed my mind [. . .]
Stillwater
+ I give up. Is there something like a Bat Signal we can send up for Chris to call him to an emergency? He's my only [. . .]
Stillwater
+ Sure. Our desire to convict, even when they're innocent, seems to have outrun our desire to make sure that innocent people are never convicted. When [. . .]
DavidTC
+ The number of wealthy defendants in the cj system is minute. In addition to what Oscar pointed out, the reason the number is wealthy [. . .]
Saul Degraw
+ @lyle That sounds like the issue of the True Believer. One can be a True Believer for a political ideology, a lifestyle, a religion, whatever. Psychologically I [. . .]
Slade the Leveller

Yep, not really looking forward to my city becoming West Aleppo.

Slade the Leveller

“There were few nights lying in the dark that he did not envy the dead.”

Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Oscar Gordon
+ But isn't that what @davidtc is saying? Sure, the number of wealthy in the CJ is small, but if those wealthy people were forced [. . .]
Stillwater
+ Here's a bit you might find interesting: "Thus government for groups larger than tribes normally arises, not because of social contracts or voluntary transactions of any [. . .]

Do anything in the same place with the same people for long enough and you're going to find yourself with a community.

Like it or not.

North

Yeah from what a little lazy wiki reading has yielded I think you're right. Mr. Olson and I are talking about the same thing.

Stillwater
+ What you're talking about is the logic of the Stationary Bandit (Mancur Olson). The S(o)B's desire to extort the proles for everything it can get [. . .]
+ If gerrymandering is responsible for a mere 200 of those 1000 seats (and regression to the mean responsible for another 200), then we only have [. . .]
North
+ Great article, delightfully circular (I'm not saying that sarcastically). Yes, "if the masses are sufficiently immiserated they'll lynch you and take your stuff." isn't a [. . .]
gregiank
+ I'll tell you in 2018 how well the D's are doing. Before then polling can give us some strong hints. That election in Georgia will [. . .]
Francis
+ The number of wealthy defendants in the cj system is minute. If you want to make a major change in the system, fund it [. . .]
Kimmi

if your parents are poor enough, they probably can't afford to have you quietly murdered and make it look like an accident.

Kimmi
+ I'm gonna contra on this. I think they'll see about finding new blood. No Brazile, nothing remotely clinton as far as possible. (Ya Did notice that [. . .]
veronica d
+ @densityduck -- Tragedy is tragedy, but being a minority will raise the odds of tragedy. Furthermore, in many ways it compounds the magnitude of tragedy. [. . .]
Kimmi

K,
oh, HELL no! Asking the entire DNC to resign is fucking unprecedented.

Kimmi
+ Stillwater, Likely they all will. ain't nobody there who wasn't a clinton flunkie, and the clintons are gone gone gone. (Yes, the people I knew there were [. . .]
Kimmi
+ The DNC read my survey! (literally, it's on the table in some of the latest pics). ... they may have put it in the "cranky" pile [. . .]

I'm still wondering what happens this summer in Europe. When it gets hot. When the election is behind us.

Kimmi
+ v, The discussion was about persuasion. In which case, your goals are the question, not your values. Do you want a solid core of supporters? Do you want [. . .]
+ I don't know what the DNC ought to do. Like, embrace free trade, embrace "fair trade", embrace tariffs, or what. I don't know if they [. . .]
veronica d

@damon -- How much is "too much"? Who decides?

Again, this reflects your values.

Kimmi

not at all. some are revolutionary.

Pinky
+ "If we take him seriously there should be no diversity-based enrollment in colleges." Can we be against it without taking Fish seriously? I have no [. . .]
Pinky

What do you mean by reactionary there? All protests are reactionary.

Lyle
+ Interestingly the the quote could also apply to religions, a religious person believes that they are in possession of the truth. So is the leftist [. . .]
Kimmi
+ Nah, that's na sa bad. What's bad is when you're drawin' yer gun on the neighborkids... Scarin' them outta their wits. ... because that's the sort [. . .]