State of the Discussion

The posts in play...

The Virginia Ultrasound Bill and the Moniker of Rape
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Tuesday Blognado: The taxing question of … tax
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Parenting by Class
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These Things I Assume To Be True
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The comments...

Kimmi
+ Stop being such a goddamn liberal. It is quite possible for a woman who is non-consenting to be literally unable to speak -- and sometimes unable [. . .]
BlaiseP

... and I haven't even begun to address the distorting effect of government subsidies.

Will H.
+ No, I believe the analogy was a good one, in that its purpose was restated immediately following. when basic rights are implicated in the process... depending [. . .]
Kimmi

I've known guys like that... who would explain their "ideal woman" on a first date. They got few second dates.

Kimmi
+ This is really dumb. Did he sit down and ask her, at any point in time? not that I've heard. He ought to take just as much [. . .]
BlaiseP
+ How very right you are.   The current system is so completely jiggered to the Consumer side few people see any benefit to becoming an Investor.   [. . .]
sonmi451
+ And commitment doesn't automatically mean the agreement to have children together. If your only reason to be with a woman is you want her to [. . .]
Scrooge McDuck
+ Well, public policy is about choices, and we made very different choices, then.  Yes, there was stagflation in the 70s, but I've never read any non-ideological [. . .]
sonmi451
+ His participation in the relationship was extorted from him under false pretense. Wait, did the girlfriend promise and pinky swear that she will absolutely have [. . .]
Will H.
+ Confinement is physical force. That's rape. The whining guy, that's not rape. Why is she with that guy that's so whiny in the first [. . .]
Christopher Carr

All the poor people we've heard of are part of some vast conspiracy to convince us poverty exists.

Michael Drew
+ Merely because the state has an interest in regulating the matter does not mean that the regulation can take whatever form the state pleases, especially [. . .]
Will H.
+ Kimmi answered that below better than I probably would have. It is the betrayal of one being totally committed to the relationship and the other being [. . .]
Just John

LOL.  When I was a kid, I was the remote control.

Roger

Yeah, it seems American democracy is a recipe for burgeoning debt and governmental largesse.

Kimmi
+ It refuses to deal with my reasoned arguments, calling them maudlin. I don't see why anyone should listen when it requests reasoned arguments out of [. . .]
Kimmi

Indeed, I'm told one involves leather and the other one doesn't. Am unable to comment, as I haven't participated in either.

 

Just John
+ Regarding class warfare, changes in progressive taxation is what we have instead of revolutions and suppressions (word?).  That is, in my view this sort of [. . .]
Will H.
+ I was thinking of custody and visitation in instances of divorce. I hope that's what you were thinking of when you wrote that bit about "a [. . .]
sonmi451
+ That is exactly the sort of thing that tells me that I should never lift a finger to even attempt to defend a “woman’s [. . .]
Will H.

Is it proper that a judge who owns a car should be allowed to sentence a car thief?

Seriously, come up with a reasoned argument.

Just John
+ Yeah.  Problem is, every bit of spending always seems urgent (to someone) and decoupling the need to spend from the need to raise needed revenues [. . .]
Will H.
+ So what I set out to discuss was really the lack of female voices in all too much of the conversation about what is, in [. . .]
sonmi451
+ Actually there are people who think that not having a vagina makes them better suited to argue and have opinions about this issue (more objectivity, [. . .]
sonmi451
+ Actually there are people who think that not having a vagina make them better suited to argue and have opinions about this issue (more objectivity, [. . .]
Just John
+ It's true that one's level of consumption shows how much of your money is pumping through the system, but that's also true of useful investment.  [. . .]
karl
+ Well, the facts are that you don't have a vagina and you can't get pregnant (you can't even be coerced into it).  I assume, though, [. . .]
+ If they use the same words when it comes to "paternity", it is less telling a construction. (We can also discuss whether the arguments for men [. . .]
Will H.
+ Off the top of my head, I can tell you that in section 1515 of Title 18, there is a definition for "corruptly" as applied [. . .]
Will H.
+ Then you are familiar with the concept of informed consent, and of the reasons why statutory rape is prohibited. Which goes back to my point above [. . .]
Kimmi
+ Counseling against gastric bypass surgery is not comparable with an invasive procedure. Any insurance company asking for an invasive procedure that is unnecessary OUGHT to be [. . .]
Kimmi
+ It's talking again. It wants feedback. Should I give it some? I think not. It refuses to understand why gendering noise is inflammatory. When it reconsiders enough [. . .]
James Hanley
+ Not so fast there, buddy. People are often in agreement. Yes. If you offer me $12 in exchange for cooking you brownies, and I accept, we [. . .]
Rtod
+ What's all this about what chores I should do and what chores my wife should do? The only reason we had kids was so [. . .]
Just John
+ From another direction, there's also what you miss by not doing those things.  I'll never forget my astonishment on opening that first dirty diaper after [. . .]

"Rights to a child which is his." That's a telling construction.

BlaiseP
+ Ugh.   Gotta go back to composing outside this wretched JavaScript box. EDIT:  Let the last ... half century show what happened when we became a consumer [. . .]
James Hanley

KenB,

I respect your two cents.  But I respect reasoned debate even more.

What is more offensive, engaging in dishonest debate or pointing out someone's dishonesty?

Will H.
+ You're missing something here. Maybe I didn't explain it well. It's actually a definition of coercion from the United States Code. [E]very single human [. . .]
+ Will, Am I sure that there is what seems like consent in situations of the sexual abuse of children? Yes, I positively am. We can get [. . .]
BlaiseP
+ In principle, you're correct.  Consider this: taxable income has become something of a fiction.   Not the actual earned income, that much we know, but after [. . .]
sonmi451
+ Strong words, he was wronged. So who wronged him? His girlfriend? Should she have continued a pregnancy against her own will in order not to [. . .]

A check for sickle-cell anemia is not a comparable situation as compared to the check we've been discussing elsewhere in this thread, is it?

Will H.
+ I would find having a foreign object forced into my vagina without my choice or consent for no good medical reason except to intimidate me [. . .]
+ Well done. I think the thing that gets me now, as a former stay-at-home dad who does the laundry and the cooking and the lawn-mowing and [. . .]
Will H.
+ Insurance companies require non-essential procedures all the time. I'm not saying that they're not unethical; I'm just saying that they often require unnecessary procedures, especially with [. . .]
 
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