State of the Discussion

The posts in play...

An unsettled dogma
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Prince Charles, Crunchy Conservative
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I’ll Take “War on Sniffles” for $800, Alex
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Homer “The Iliad” (1 of 2)
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Foodie Self-Sufficiency
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Klein vs. Ryan
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The comments...

Jaybird
+ What's weird is that I don't think that "If you’re going to have sex you’d be better off doing it with condoms" was the message. It [. . .]
ThatPirateGuy

The guy wrote a book length godwin. What else does a man need to do to not be taken seriously? Kick a puppy?

Michael Drew

Interesting. I thought it was done.

North

The rumors swirl but I haven't heard anything concrete about Charles agreeing to step aside.

zic
+ Well, yours was, too. But I worked as a journalist for many years, and the whole notion of the "liberal" media is a hoax. Reporters [. . .]
zic
+ I'll probably have to rethink this, since the supremes ruled corporations are people, too. But yes. Because as a corporation, I have legal protection for [. . .]
Michael Drew

She doesn't have to outlive her son in order for William to be the next sovereign, isn't that the current understanding?

zic
+ You oversimplify, but that's close. It goes beyond pollutants; and much of it does slip right down into the slimy hot tub where marketeers [. . .]

That is a fairly steep conceit, zic. (and factually false).

+ there’s a fervent desire to protect personal rights By which you mean the rights of people not acting as producers of goods and services other than [. . .]
+ What you refer to as 'corporate [ir]responsiblity' is ordinary human behavior with regard to unregulated commons. With industrial effluvia (and to that you might include [. . .]
zic
+ Maybe you should move to another state; CA goes over the top in liberalism most of the time. But judging from the liberals I know [. . .]
zic
+ It's not liberals fault that so few conservatives go into academics, go to college, or find much value in science. Liberals like those things, and [. . .]
greginak
+ I am against the "drug war" but that doesn't imply that no substance can ever be to dangerous to be illegal. I think the two [. . .]
JosephFM
+ There are several related drugs are currently legal by prescription. Dextroamphetamine was widely available until the 1970s, and is still used to treat ADHD. Mark [. . .]
greginak

gee can we be citizens if we're not on your team...pretty please

greginak
+ Kyle- That ad brought the weird, thats for sure. it did its job, get a lot of free plays. The other guy could dress up [. . .]
Bob Cheeks
+ Rufus, dude, you're good. The analysis you provide reaches to the level of the noetic differentiation, that process describing the movement of compact consciousness (the [. . .]

"The GOP is the party of citizens, for citizenship." [Citation needed].

Koz
+ That makes a lot of sense, unfortunately it's not completely true. The success of achieving prosperity and limited government (or anything else for that [. . .]
North
+ Gonna have to disagree with ya there Jay. The safe sex message: "If you're going to have sex you'd be better off doing it with [. . .]
Sam M
+ He has interesting points, but I am skeptical, too. Why does large scale production have to equal monoculture? It might lead in that direction, but [. . .]
Jaybird
+ I had less risk of getting pregnant than the average person. Additionally, there was no legislation regarding wrapping it up (thank heaven for small favors) and, [. . .]
+ I don't know where the oppression is but maybe it's coming from the demon sheep? You know the new congresslizards. Greg, north, jay, et. al. [. . .]
greginak
+ So you risked getting pregnant from smoking in restaurants? Ahhhh okay, so I’m still not quite getting the overbearing gov angle. I am aware that [. . .]
Jaybird

There was a play or two about it as well.

Jaybird

When I came of age, having sex without a condom was considered on par with smoking in restaurants.

greginak

wasn't that the crisis with a tom hanks movie?

greginak
+ I don’t smoke and fine with most public smoking bans. But bans in parks and on the beach seem a overboard to me. Then again [. . .]
greginak

So if you're not going to Sack It, Whack It.

but what are you talking about? Really and truly, what are you referring to?

Jaybird

Am I the only one who remembers the AIDS crisis?

greginak
+ “There’s a fair case to be made that the liberal limit of government falls suspiciously close to the terminal line of where liberals stop seeing [. . .]
Jaybird

Making the beast with two backs *WITHOUT A CONDOM*.

Wrap it up and knock yourself out. Don't wrap it up? Attempted murder!

+ I'll 3.5/1.5 with you. No gripes on the first two. On smoking bans I'm mixed (http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/06/why_doesnt_the_market_produce.php) I recognize the social utility of public smoking bans [. . .]
+ I would've agreed with you on the liberal/libertarian thing circa 2000. Not so much these days (hello health care mandates). There's kind of a slight difference [. . .]
North

Well I'll consider it. But their sudden retarded-luddite left plot hook left me with an aching jaw and I resent it.

North
+ Uh, Jay, I don't object to most of your characterizations but the beast with two backs one inot fair. Regulating sex and administering fines and [. . .]
greginak
+ I live in Alaska so I don’t have much of that. I don’t have a problem with saying that liberals believe in the use of [. . .]
+ It's so different that it's hard to compare. I mean it's interesting and set up to be a science and religion focused family drama so [. . .]
+ But not really, greg, *shrug* cigarette bans, calorie labeling requirements, trans-fat bans, these are measures advocated by an alliance of Democrats and public health experts [. . .]
+ It's more of a mixed bag than a standard. Like I said I find nanny-state liberalism to be really bizarre because the standard seems to [. . .]
Consumatopia
+ Ryan explicitly stated that he supports subsidizing patients with pre-existing conditions, rather than government heavy-handed mandates to provide these same patients with affordable coverage. Why are [. . .]
Jaybird

Better put it out before the liberals mistake it for a cigarette and start fining people.

greginak

i smell straw burning.

greginak
+ I think everybody has some areas/ limits where government must not go. Torture would be one of them. I might be an interesting, purely theoretical [. . .]
Jaybird
+ So long as they don't smoke, don't use too much salt, don't use trans-fats, don't use e-cigarettes, don't own a handgun, and don't ever make [. . .]
North
+ Correct me if I'm mistaken but isn't it reversed domestically on the issue of social policy? Liberals being generally content to let the people do [. . .]
North
+ Kyle, I have considered it but the final episode of BSG revolted me so volently that I fear it has poisoned me against the writers [. . .]
 
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