State of the Discussion

The posts in play...

calling bullshit on bullshit
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Getting Our Priorities in Order
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Economic Interventionism
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Stimulation After (Economic) Climax
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the grad trap
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Idealism with a Sword
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Opportunity, Society, and the Role of the State
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Falsifying the Unfalsifiable
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Snow in Arizona
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“All I want… to kno-ow! All I want!”
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The Humanitarian Empire
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Thomas Aquinas Meets The Flying Spaghetti Monster
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the democracy fallacy
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The comments...

+ Freddie, I have to echo what Onyx Mousse says above, even though it means addressing someone as "Onyx Mousse." The commenter Philip is obviously arguing an [. . .]
An Onyx Mousse
+ Freddie et al.: So Charles Murray once proposed a thought experiment: what if we canceled every aspect of the social welfare state (all [. . .]
+ It's tough to thread the needle on this one, Mark, as most interventionists are pretty adept at paying lip service to the need for exit [. . .]
+ I of course disagree with you on issues of trade protectionism thanks to the small part of my background that has a basis in economics. One [. . .]
Chris Dierkes

Freddie,

I was half-joking. I was thinking of ur legendary comment threads over at McArdle's.

JB
+ Um, I think you guys might be missing the (lack of) forest for the (lack of) trees. I mean, suppose that there is some [. . .]

[...] raises an interesting point: Finally, I’d put an end to the concept of economic or diplomatic sanctions [...]

Matthias
+ "I am not stupid enough to believe that work ethic or intelligence are completely unrelated to individual success, but we see again and again how [. . .]
AEP
+ Having never commented here before, I am hesitant to make broad assertions, but I wonder if Philip is not trolling. While reasonably articulate in [. . .]
+ Well, this is distressing -- from a Nature news article in 2004: "US graduate programmes, especially in life sciences, have grown excruciatingly long in recent [. . .]
+ [...] The League of Ordinary Gentlemen (via Andrew Sullivan): If these guys put on their poor costumes and use their good old fashioned elbow grease [. . .]
+ Didn't mean to mention it as an average, just as ballpark figure for someone who is doing his or her PhD fulltime and nothing else. [. . .]
+ Philip-- Now then, why do many people, after a couple hard laps on the track, slow to a walk, clutching their stomachs and gasping loudly, [. . .]
scriblerus

You mention 6.5 years as the average time to completion but in the humanities it's closer to 10.

Philip Primeau
+ "lots and lots of not-successful people do keep moving, and remain not-successful through no fault of their own" It's not about moving, it's about excelling in [. . .]

[...] to E.D.’s post last week, Roque Nuevo wrote: “the world generally” agrees that national sovereignty, [...]

James Williams
+ "Success seems to be connected to action. Successful people keep moving. They make mistakes, but they don’t quit.” What Phil seems for some [. . .]
Joseph
+ Like Freddie in his post and many of BB's commenters, the fact the the guy who did this "experiment" was white and male and [. . .]
mutterhals

There is no such thing as an evangelical atheist. Nice try.

+ My daughter is 20 months old and the first time she went out in the snow she fell in it face-first, and has had a [. . .]
Philip Primeau
+ There's been an insane amount of snowfall here this year. Granted, New England isn't Arizona, but in these southern parts, we're not used to day [. . .]
Chris Dierkes
+ Bob, Nice comment. Yeah reading back on it, serious is too strong a word. There's potential I suppose but that makes it sound more [. . .]
Bob
+ This possible populist "backlash" you mention I find very interesting. To refresh memories you wrote, "Pigging backing on ED’s point about the loss of [. . .]
+ Chris: Fair points. I think part of the issue here is that when one publicizes their religious beliefs (or non-beliefs, as the case may be), [. . .]
Jerry
+ I think in this case the angrier argument is the more rational one. Here we have people arguing that they should have the political power [. . .]
+ The individual never used to be held on such a pedestal, and modern conservatism has idolized the nature and potential of the individual far beyond [. . .]
+ Chris, these are all red herrings. You leave out the historical, the human, the fact that the belief in God is not the same [. . .]
Chris Bell
+ Mark, I think we agree to a large extent. I don't really have a problem with ED's beliefs if they don't affect me. I [. . .]
Jerry
+ What's missing from both sides in this argument is an appreciation of how "character" is influenced by family dynamics. People don't make rational choices about [. . .]
+ Jerry: If you think I am directing the "please, be reasonable" directive solely at angry atheists, then I think you misread the post. [. . .]
+ I'm somewhat hesitant to get back into this debate (even though I wrote the post), because it seems to be getting back into the typical [. . .]
+ My buddy Jason and I used to have this plot where we'd go to some sad boy music show like Coldplay or such and then [. . .]
Jerry
+ Mark's argument has the ring of blaming the victim. For decades, the religious right has been trying to secure political power to limit scientific research, [. . .]

Another one of these? I'm just finishing up the Bloggingheads episode with Jeff Madrick (which was quite good). I can't keep up. :)

Chad
+ This discussion is bringing up an question I've always carried around on the subject. Maybe someone here can help me with it. Assuming it is [. . .]
Chris Bell
+ E.D., It's more than just "implausible," it actively contradicts much of what we know about how the world works. Sure, the existence of the [. . .]
Philip Primeau
+ Freddo, you ever heard of Christian Death? Not a big fan in general, but they have one truly inspired song that is reminiscent of vintage [. . .]
Philip Primeau
+ Good time to mention that fucking goddamn "Viva La Vida" is "Song of the Year." http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/02/song-of-the-yea.html What I'd give to see Glenn Danzig assault Chris Martin [. . .]
+ My Favorites I think are 1.Last Caress 2.Astro Zombies 3.Hatebreeders 4.Hybrid Moments 5. Die Die My Darling I also dig "Teenagers from Mars" but that's a little too close to self [. . .]
Philip Primeau

Yeah, in my anti-Freddie rage last night, I accidentally (that word...) posted the Conrad Hilton bit here. Oops.

Philip Primeau
+ And I can remember when I saw her last We were running all around and having a blast But the back seat of the drive-in [. . .]
Philip Primeau

Retouched "Hybrid Moments"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP7wHOHYCdc&feature=related

Philip Primeau
+ God, they were awesome. "Saturday Night" is one of the greatest love songs ever written. Also swell: "Little Angelfuck" and "Last Carress" (possibly the greatest [. . .]
Tim Harris
+ It must be very nice to be a graduate student of theology, living happily above the smoke and stir of this dim spot that men [. . .]
+ Hi Erik, I wasn't really interested in the specifics of the case in re: Peoria and Gaza. My point really is that we have [. . .]