State of the Discussion

The posts in play...

Overlearning Lessons
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Obama and The (Quasi?)Imperial Presidency
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Derbyshire and the Happy Meal Conservatives
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Around the Web on Ash Wednesday
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Grow your own?
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Brooks on Jindal
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Sad news
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Stand Up Sociology
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quote of the day
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Jindal: debt is bad when we say it is
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The comments...

+ E.D., is it not perhaps the case that notions of moral clarity seem "mercurial" precisely because we are increasingly slipping into an orientation of relativity. [. . .]
+ E.D.: In and of itself, no. But some kind of moral clarity is a pre-requisite to the development of a reliable compass, not just [. . .]

Though "moral clarity" really strikes me as so objective, so intangible...can something so mercurial as that provide us with a foreign policy compass?

+ Scott: Continuing with the Fukuyama example, I think his case proves your point that moral clarity would have provided significant evidence against the invasion of Iraq. [. . .]
+ Indeed Mark. The moral clarity that I was referring to in my piece wasn't intended to be a green light to any and all opportunities [. . .]
+ Freddie: I absolutely agree with you on that. My point is that intellectual neoconservatism is not (or at least was not) necessarily a reflexive [. . .]
+ "No other policy in American politics could have such a horrendous record and yet enjoy more chances than an aggressive foreign policy." I think the Left's [. . .]
+ You can't spread democracy through force of arms; trying to do so is just a basic contradiction in terms. Spreading stability through force of arms [. . .]
Michael Drew
+ There is a hot war ongoing in Afghanistan, and we are a party to the hostilities. Anyone who ever thought prisoners we took there [. . .]
+ Derbyshire writes: "At the very least, by yoking themselves to the clueless George W. Bush and his free-spending administration, they helped create the great debt [. . .]
+ Actually, from a Catholic point of view, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with your point that self denial can be embarked on (or avoided as unnecessary) [. . .]
Katherine
+ We already allow many things that are addictive and potentially harmful, coffee, chocolate, and diet coke are great examples. Making herb illegal on the same [. . .]
+ Mr Dierkes, You say the Republicans are being "pretty small bore and mono-explanatory". The Republicans proposed a stimulus package that included tax cuts on income [. . .]
E.D. Kain

Poor taste, Bob.

+ Chris: I think you're onto something here with respect to Congress' abdication of responsibility in the foreign policy arena. Granted, they've had the help of [. . .]
Bob
+ The Marmet Technique. Manually Expressing Breast Milk -- The Marmet Technique Expressing milk by hand can be done to relieve engorged breasts or to stimulate let [. . .]
Bob
+ When I stumble out to get the Times I first turn to the OpEd page. If it is a Brook's day I read him [. . .]
Chet
+ Lent, I've come to realize, highlights the best part about being an atheist. I'm not saying there's no utility or value in self-denial. I'm no hedonist. [. . .]
matoko_chan
+ As is my mischeivous wont, I am forced to point out that part of what we are seeing is stratification due to IQ. There [. . .]
Chris Dierkes

Mike,

Good points. I've too been very skeptical of any Commission into Bush & Co. ever coming to fruition.

Chris Dierkes

Nice marmet.

matoko_chan
+ How is populism different from mob rule? Limbaugh is simply Kylon and his followers the First Democrats..... that massacred the Pythagoreans. Ditch the elephant.....the new republican crest [. . .]
jake

"We are nihilists... we believe in nothing... NOW GIVE US THE MONEY!"

+ [...] time ago Chris posed a question the rest of us at the League that has been tumbling around in my head for some time [. . .]
Bob
+ Sorry Chris, Your "explanation" or whatever it is, not a debate, is junk. Your definition of god does not comport with traditional christian [. . .]
+ There's a reason that foreign policy only makes tiny changes from president to president (intl crisis notwithstanding) ....it's a very sobering responsibilities. Plus, as I [. . .]
Chris Dierkes
+ Bob, I'm going to try to be very careful here bc I want to follow sidereal's wise admonition that this thread have a moratorium on argumentation, [. . .]
Bob

"Without Lincoln we wouldn’t be living in Hamilton’s world. "

"Fur Sure! And gag me with a spoon!"

And don't forget the 14th Amendment.

Bob
+ "I find very touching the notion that even though the young child had many disabilities, his life was not in vain." "Disabilities" like being born [. . .]

Thanks, Chris. I was hoping you'd weigh in on this....

Chris Dierkes
+ I think the central element that has to be kept in mind is the utter mercy of God. The discipline part, to the degree [. . .]
Cascadian
+ I figured you were aware of Ben's remarks and just through them out. Without Lincoln we wouldn't be living in Hamilton's world. Ultimately, the anti-feds [. . .]
Chris Dierkes
+ This is a petition from the (Church of England) Book of Common Prayer for the Funeral of a Child. "O God, who makest nothing [. . .]
Bob
+ I am familiar with the quote but not not sure what you have in mind by pointing it without those " _" marks. Hamilton, to [. . .]
Cascadian

A republic, if you can keep it.

Bob

"I’m a fan of the early anti-Federalist thinkers, especially Jefferson."

I also am a fan of Jefferson, but Hamilton won.

Cascadian
+ But seriously, an honest question, dose the fact that we have moved from 18th century level of communication at least lessen the rational for [. . .]
Chris Dierkes
+ Freddie, I don't know maybe it's because he has to every once in awhile throw out some red meat to the Limbaugh types to keep his [. . .]
E.D. Kain

Too true, Bob.

Bob
+ You could post here on the death of children every day, in the thousands. The difference is only you do not know most of their [. . .]
sidereal

Oh, that was fine. I was referring to the probably inevitable eventual use of Ivan Cameron in the commentariat as a political football.

E.D. Kain

sidereal, good thinking. I didn't mean to politicize the thread by tossing in that health care reference. It just seemed important. Thanks.

sidereal
+ Learning of the death of children makes me sick to my stomach. There's a child in our CHD support group that will be fortunate [. . .]
+ Contrarian even when I don't mean to be, I picked today, not even realizing it was Lent, to write an essay on the foolishness [. . .]
Bob
+ “The closer government is to the people the more responsible it will be.” I’d call that debatable. What is not debatable is that it is [. . .]

I'm giving up sodas this year...and I'm terrified. I better get a good place in heaven for this!

raft
+ jindal is to obama as Shia Leabouf is to Optimus Prime. just not, not in the same league. if he's the best the Republicans [. . .]
+ Hot/cold is exactly how I'd say I feel towards Brooks-- half the time I read him, I say to myself, "right on." The other half [. . .]
 
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