State of the Discussion

The posts in play...

But What Are You For? The Death of Modern Movement Conservatism
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Bloodsport
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the genuine shame of Ross Douthat’s New York Times column
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Endless Divisions
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Saturday healthcare blogging pt. 1
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Nobel Democracy-Promotion Prize
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Open Thread
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The comments...

I think the key word there was "traces." We're not at all talking about a world of difference.

+ Well, yes, this is very much a result of the GOP's successes in the 80s and 90s, and I've been making that point for quite [. . .]

More importantly: Did you a) ask my question or b) get me a job?

Sam M
+ "Contra your assertion, Obama and the Dem congress have a pretty clear list of priorities–first health care, then a second tier consisting of global warming [. . .]
+ Actually, Andy Smith, the GQ article makes a pretty interesting point about helmets and padding. It turns out that physical conditioning has decisively won the [. . .]
+ Sorry, something happened to the rest of my post. I made the point that dangerous as the NFL is today, it was far worse in [. . .]
+ In the meantime, of course, there is boxing, where the whole point is to give your opponent a concussion. It would be difficult to criticize [. . .]
Dan Miller
+ It's not necessarily a lack of wonkery that's at issue here; rather, I think it is a sense of priorities. Contra your assertion, Obama [. . .]
+ Sam M - 1) What I meant to convey is that football organizations won't acknowledge the concussion problem. Obviously, many former players recognize the danger [. . .]
Sam M
+ "we can stop glorifying hard-hitting collisions as some sort of iconic symbol of all that is good and right about American football." Can we? Sometimes, isn't [. . .]
+ I think the better comparison is to liberalism in the 80's and early 90's, since I absolutely think these things are cyclical, although the current [. . .]
Barry

"PLease, after they F*UCKED up medicare, social security, and medicaide…are you nuts?"

You and truth haven't lived on the same block for years, right?

+ I think Larison is clearly the exception to the rule, for those reasons. However, Larison has also to my knowledge (maybe I'm wrong) never [. . .]
Barry
+ Freddie: "I hold out hope that Ross will get better at his current gig. He’s too bright and too talented to not get better. [. . .]
Barry
+ E.D. Kain "Sure, but liberals were taking down Bush from day one. Seriously, until 9/11 “united” the country, Bush was the subject of scorn and [. . .]
Sam M
+ More broadly, this raises an interesting question about the dangers a worker should be "allowed" to face. As a former bartender, I know that many [. . .]
Bob Cheeks
+ "For Larison, conservatism needs to be more a temperament than an ideology, and that temperament can be found only in traces in both political parties- [. . .]
Sam M
+ "It’s particularly dispiriting because as former players, many sports commentators know what goes on in locker rooms across the country. " And: "If players were aware of [. . .]

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Sam M
+ I think this is a function mostly of the GOP's prior success. You win... then what? For instance, you write: "This is problematic because political movements [. . .]
John Howard Griffin
+ I don't take any umbrage about how anyone treats me on the Intertubes - I expect a lot of irrational emotion and religiously-dogmatic defense of [. . .]
+ Really? So the CIA captures two terrorist cells en route to the US. Intelligence indicates that there is a third. The captured terorists' laptops [. . .]
Bob Cheeks
+ Way back in '62, as a soon-to-be sophomore in high school I collapsed from heat exhaustion during two-a-day's football practice in August. They threw me [. . .]
Jay Daniel
+ Larison also comes across as a big sourpuss, and his views on domestic policy are pretty opaque. So "Larison-like" makes it a little difficult [. . .]
+ There's a reason that Larison is many liberals' favorite conservative: his utter contempt for the Bush Administration, held for all the right reasons. He [. . .]
Isaac
+ at 22 yrs, I'd rather take an employer that paid more and didn't give me health insurance over an employer that paid less and did. [. . .]
Jay Daniel
+ Not to beat a dead horse, but Daniel Larison is a perfect example of someone who you cannot in good faith "blame" for the actions [. . .]
+ There was the 60 Minutes report last Sunday (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/09/60minutes/main5371686.shtml). The NFL acting like a tobacco company on this is really shameful. I'd add that the fifth estate [. . .]
+ They are, after all, star athletes, paid millions of dollars annually to run into each other at great risk. Geez, Will, you're smarter than that. [. . .]
Dan Miller

I can pretty much assure you that's not true.

Don't dellude yourself. Everyone is okay with torture under certain scenarios.

+ [...] Douthat is ruined by the Times. As pointed out by the Gentlemen, it took courage for Obama to accept the Peace prize; turning it [. . .]
+ You could say more or less the same about Martin Luther King. All those people marching in the streets getting their heads bashed in [. . .]
Sam M
+ "The perilous situation of New Orleans, and how it would withstand a direct hit from a hurricane, was a situation that had been known and [. . .]
+ It seems fair for these conservatives to say, “I opposed X, Y, and Z” when they are on the record having opposed X, Y, and [. . .]
+ the Iraq War or torture or the Patriot Act or any number of other Bush policies any more than many liberals supported some of Clinton’s [. . .]
Jaybird
+ Some open-thready observations: Demon's Souls for the PS3 is difficult. I mean, like, surprisingly difficult. Interestingly, it's difficult in a new and interesting way... you buy [. . .]
+ There was a lot of chatter among lefty blogs (the ones less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt) when he was first [. . .]
Jaybird
+ I would put the debate, ironically enough, as one between "Intelligent Design" and "Darwinian Evolution". I have absolutely no faith in Intelligent Design. None. I don't [. . .]
Louis B.

Does Yglesias define inflation as an expansion of the money supply or a change in the CPI?

Zach

Sorry; wasn't aware it was a meme. Stupid, offhand comment.

+ I'd very much like this "the American Scene archives have deliberately been buried because they are incendiary" meme to die. The site has changed designs, [. . .]
Jaybird
+ My first inclination is to respond in kind. You seem to take great umbrage that people would, heaven forfend!, treat you the way you treat others. What's [. . .]
John Howard Griffin
+ I assume by your response that you haven't read Mr. Dean's book, or Mr. Altemeyer's book that he references, otherwise you would not immediately leap [. . .]
Jay Daniel
+ To cut through my tendency toward the verbose: who is arguing that the people responsible aren't responsible? Doesn't pretty much everyone (including most conservatives) [. . .]
Jay Daniel
+ The only consistent definition of conservative I now feel confident in is that a conservative is someone who is not responsible for anything that [. . .]
zic
+ Conservatives preached that government was bad for 30 years. And during that time, they governed badly as a result. Serious conservative thought about the good government [. . .]
 
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