State of the Discussion

The posts in play...

Strange Bedfellows
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soft bigotry, meet low expectations, part II
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Few people actually care about partisanship
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Glenn Beck for Peace
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The comments...

+ Actually, Roque, it's my understanding that we pay above-market prices for Indian and Turkish poppy harvests to discourage drug-trafficking. I have no idea why we [. . .]
+ We can argue about our committment to Afghanistan all we want to but we're missing an important point: Obama made our commitment to Afghanistan part [. . .]
Jaybird
+ Because the government will never, ever, ever, ever, ever end The War On Drugs. There's too much money, too much power, and too much influence [. . .]
+ Does it sound crazy if we buy Afghanistan's opium crop? Why, exactly? Is it because being anti drug is supposed to be sane? If so, [. . .]
+ Dude - do you have any idea how much virtual ink libertarians spilled over the last 8 years that was dedicated to going after Bush [. . .]

Jeff Flake is a good guy. Arizona politicians often are - but I'm biased.

JosephFM

You do have a sense of humor, right?

+ Interesting points, Will. I have come to the position that no matter how unrealistic total stability (or certainly democracy) are in Afghanistan, that we [. . .]
Jaybird
+ Yeah, I considered including a paragraph about how we needed to hook Bayer and Glaxo-Smith-Klein with the poppy dudes (and offer a subsidy if it [. . .]
+ What North said. As I argue above, I also think the political logic of withdrawal will lead to more air strikes to shore up Obama's [. . .]
North

Be nice to Bob. He's our local provacateur.

North
+ Kirk, to your latter point, you're somewhat mistaken. The calculus is that if you conduct a raid looking for terrorists in a Afghan village either [. . .]
North
+ I think I'm following you Jay. I can't say I disagree. On Iraq in particular I've always been of the opinion that as the invading [. . .]
CRM
+ Wait, so people are having hissyfits about one conference call involving an agency with a paltry $155m budget? Does anyone remember Bush's $8 billion "Faith Based [. . .]
Kirk
+ I'd find this article convincing if anyone anywhere could explain to me how we would could possibly be successful in Afghanistan. You say "I think [. . .]
Jaybird
+ To clarify: It seems to me that we are in a "if we withdraw, bad things X, Y, and Z will happen" situation. I agree with [. . .]
Jaybird
+ Would you like me to write an essay about how I think that Bush should be impeached? I could do that. How about how the [. . .]

Less of a story nationally? or Less of a story among the right?

Bob
+ Aren't statements like this, "We regret any comments on the call that may have been misunderstood or troubled other participants," generally known as [. . .]
+ It's strange, and unfortunate, to live in a country where one party explicitly fires federal prosecutors for partisan gain and that is less of a [. . .]
+ If I read you correctly, Freddie, this is a non-issue because 1. ) there was no explicit coercion and 2.) these people were doing [. . .]
+ Well, I for one see nothing in conservatism since I consider myself a libertarian. I for one have also been pushing for the last [. . .]
Jaybird
+ But... what do we want to accomplish? "Withdrawal, however, strikes me as both morally callous and strategically unsound." Let's say I agree with that. We can drop [. . .]
Kev

Commie-dems?
No wonder the corporatist-repubs can't win elections.

Jaybird
+ Well, one can then argue the finer point of "let's assume the existence of an NEA and take it as a political given. Is it [. . .]
Jaybird
+ Eh. I tend to take the attitude that if there wasn't a problem at all, then it would be exceptionally easy for the White House [. . .]

But we've already agreed to disagree about the foundational question, whether there should be an NEA at all. After that, this is minutia.

Jaybird
+ If I limited myself to commenting only on issues about which I care very much, I would comment only on the Batman threads... which, may [. . .]
Kev
+ Right. "It is the policy of the administration that grant decisions should be on the merits and that government officials should avoid even creating [. . .]
Jaybird
+ "You don’t think it is appropriate for the government to advocate and inspire young people to get involved in their communities?" Nope. Not for a second. We [. . .]
+ It is demonstrably the case that you continue to weigh in on issues about which you care very little-- about which you say you care [. . .]
Jaybird
+ "Really, Jay, at some point, you are going to have to get beyond just picking whatever position is as far from mine as you can. [. . .]
Jaybird

Oops, you're right. The White House said "incorrect appearance".

Kev
+ "Inappropriate" was used by a spokeswoman for an independent group (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington), NOT the White House. What the WH said: "The point [. . .]
+ Of course, because the lunatic fringe has freaked out again. That's your defense? Really, Jay, at some point, you are going to have to get beyond [. . .]
+ You know, every post I write seems to inspire this response from the fellow Gentlemen: "I don't condone what conservatives and Republicans have done in [. . .]
Kev
+ What's the difference between hip artists making public service-oriented art and Kid Rock making an ad for the Army Reserve (could have been the National [. . .]
Jaybird

According to Reason's Hit&Run blog:
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/136256.html

The White House is backing down. For some reason. Huh. They used the word "inappropriate" too.

+ A few things: 1. I'm not sure how fair it is to tar Conor and others with the abysmal way in which the Bush Administration [. . .]
Jaybird
+ And I see the signalling as taking place. Please don't think that my use of "inappropriate" is intended to be read as "Stalin Reborn!!!" Please don't think [. . .]
Louis B.
+ Yet another attempt at marginalizing political opponents in the name of an idol called the "Conservative Movement". (He likes Ron Paul? Call the cops!) Stuff like [. . .]
Jaybird
+ I'm one of the nutters who doesn't think that the government ought to be telling artists to create stuff. You want the government to commission a [. . .]
+ Could I see some signaling? Sure. But here, I don't, really. Nothing explicit, and certainly nothing to compare to the loyalty oaths of the eight [. . .]
Jaybird
+ It's not like the Republicans haven't been screaming about the NEA for as long as I can remember. Like, prior to the Tinkle Christ and [. . .]
Jaybird
+ Freddie, I can totally understand how someone might come to the conclusion that you've reached. Doubly so, given your assumptions about what is (and is [. . .]
Kev

You do realize that fascism is a far right wing ideology, right?

Kev
+ Your paranoia is showing. Look, at today's Finance hearing, Sen. Grassley acknowledged that there is no public option is Baucas' bill, but he STILL said that [. . .]
+ See, they've got this day, called National Service Day, and they are trying to plan the best way to spread their specific messages about community [. . .]
 
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