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The posts in play...

Morning Ed: Politics {2017.07.26.W}
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Notes on a Rebellion
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An Open Letter to Senator _____________
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Electoral College Concentration
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Morning Ed: The Planet {2017.07.24.M}
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The comments...

Troublesome Frog

I'm sure Trump is quaking in his boots as the All Talk Express bears down on him.

gregiank

Yeah what have the French ever done for the US!!!

Joe Sal

That's just one form of tilting the table against capital formation. I wager you could pick out a dozen more.

Kimmi

George,
Is pittsburgh also a french founded city, by your hogswaggling definition?

Oscar Gordon

Ummm, This wasn't about the ACA...

George Turner
+ The problem with Detroit has nothing to do with America or race relations. It is the normal result of a city founded by the [. . .]
Kimmi
+ George, m16s. We fought a stupid war using stupid ideas, and lost a ton of lives for no real purpose. BTW, I'm still awaiting your vocipherous denoucement [. . .]
George Turner
+ What's the problem with Vietnam, other than that we abandoned them to totalitarian communism, causing millions to flee and hundreds of thousands to drown at [. . .]
+ Good news, everyone. Out of the people who showed up today, only about 2/3 were ideologically pure enough to actually oppose Trump. Don't worry, I [. . .]
Morat20
+ Dude, if nothing else -- don't give a lengthy, stand-up-and-be-heard speech about how awful the bill is and then vote for it. I mean I get [. . .]
Morat20
+ You mean John "This bill is a disgrace I won't vote for" McCain? Who voted for said bill 20 minutes later? (Note: Not the fact that [. . .]
Troublesome Frog
+ Is it bad politics, though? What terrifying thing are we ignoring because we're arguing over this? I saw that tweet and figured I missed [. . .]
aaron david
+ They had the same opinions of Detroit that your parents did (fled in '74 or so, ended up in far Norcal. And not the nice [. . .]
Jesse
+ Yes, that's been the line pushed out by Avik Roy, who definately did not write any of the bill at all, nope, zero input. Many [. . .]
Damon
+ I take no blame for Vietnam. I was a youngling. I am not to blame for the actions of prior generations. And I don't [. . .]

Are her parents still around? If they are, do they offer opinions on Michigan?

Troublesome Frog
+ I'd actually think it was a real sign of dedication and worthy of some props if it didn't come with a speech about how terrible [. . .]
+ Here's an interesting theory: The cynic in me thinks Trump is trying to build cred w/social conservative+nationalist types as buffer for firing Sessions.— Jeff B/DDHQ [. . .]
Troublesome Frog
+ Very much this. It seems like it's an algorithm that should work at multiple scales. But we don't do it because it doesn't [. . .]
aaron david

You know, @jaybird, my wife was born in Dearborn Hights. Her parents were both born in the D.

Oscar Gordon
+ This. Seriously man, you don't like Trump, I'm betting you are annoyed with The Angry Turtle, you got fecking brain cancer. Screw em all, vote [. . .]
+ "White Flight" is a coordination problem. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the white flight stories out there are sympathetic. "I got a [. . .]
Mike Schilling
+ Ack. I'm frustrated with McCain in particular for publicly criticizing the process and then going along with it 100%. And for how he still gets [. . .]
LeeEsq
+ White flight is a complicated policy. Federal and state governments did a lot to encourage the suburban boom in mid-twentieth century America by giving White [. . .]
KenB
+ To be clear, I'm not trying to defend the Republicans' proposal or process in particular -- I was just frustrated at the gross oversimplification in [. . .]
Kimmi

Lee,
Modern mass media journalism isn't journalism in the slightest. Printing exactly what the PR flunkies ask you to print is more their style.

The question

Naw, if you go full BORE capitalist you can drown your dumber opponents.

LTL FTC
+ Pricing current residents out of some places. In many cities, gentrification takes place on former industrial/warehouse districts, where raw space in sturdy buildings is a [. . .]
Kolohe
+ Yeah, it occurred to me also that they're trying to run the 2004 playbook with base turnout. Though it should be obvious to everyone that [. . .]
Kimmi
+ Damon, Honestly? depends on the atrocity. The marianas? Not so much, as it wasn't a Topic of Interest, and nobody really voted about it. Vietnam? Oh, [. . .]
J__A

And it failed to pass.

Because the parliamentarian ruled it required 60 votes to pass, which they didn't have, not because McCain voted against it

J__A
+ You can’t think of a single cost or trade-off on your own? Really? Do you know that health care costs money? Or are you [. . .]
LeeEsq
+ Modern mass media journalism depends on access and being critical is an easy way to end access fast. Politicians might not be able to censor [. . .]
Damon
+ Fun fact! The gov't mandated discrimination in loans and construction and HOAs. Reference "The Rate Movie". "This was systemic, legalized discrimination and oppression " Yes [. . .]
Kolohe

This memo is the DOD saying "32.3 percent, -repeating, of course" and then the tweet comes in "DONNNAAAAALD TRUUUUUUUUUUMP!"

gregiank
+ I ran the Detroit Marathon last fall. Very good race, well organized. All the parts of the city it went through were either nice or [. . .]
Mike Schilling
+ I'm waiting to see if McConnell replaces the parliamentarian and then tries to sneak ACA repeal in via reconciliation. If that works and no [. . .]
Mike Schilling

The key is to address this via a bill that no one has seen including the people voting on it.

Kimmi
+ J_A, Fun Fact: When you incentivize hospitals by saying that you'll dock their pay for readmissions, it then becomes in their best interest to let the [. . .]
gregiank
+ I guess cultural codes is the phrase of the month. Jared and Ivanka are slick and well dressed which people have always mistaken for competent. [. . .]
Oscar Gordon

And it failed to pass.

Is it too soon to hope that the cracks are starting to show in McConnell's leadership?

Mike Schilling

That came literally minutes later.

Kimmi
+ Joe, I dunno, maybe giving white folks FHA loans (a prime way of gaining middle class wealth) and deliberately sending the blacks to high rises mighta [. . .]
Oscar Gordon
+ Agreed. I suppose it is possible to have a 'nice' neighborhood where the people who live there are not upper SES, but I think [. . .]
Kimmi
+ J_A, You want photos? Agent got photos: http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit Count yourself lucky that you didn't see many white folks in Detroit. Those thugs are recruiting for local "militias" (I [. . .]
 
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